God of Abraham

20130114-090147.jpgMuslims, Christians and Jews worship the same God. Each religion encourages the worship of the God of Abraham. Jews are the followers of all Prophets up to Prophet Moses. Christians are the followers of all Prophets up to Prophet Jesus. Muslims are followers of all Prophets up to Prophet Mohammed. They are brothers and sisters. They are the people of the book. All three groups of people share their history.

Yet these three groups of people are in continuous conflict with each other. They fight in the name of God against the aggressors. Yet they fight for and against the same God, the God of Abraham. They curse each other’s God, the God of Abraham.

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21 responses to “God of Abraham

  1. The problem this creates is that the Abramic religion is not a religion. It is a legal system. It claims to be God’s lawyer on earth with the ability to dispense God’s law and justice. Unfortunately we have three splinter groups each claiming to be god’s lawyer fighting each other on God’s behalf without asking God if it needs a lawyer.

      • Didn’t you not just tell us, Mr. Canadianity, that you had not only read the Quran, but, that you had also read (presumably, with “understanding”) the “Bible”?

        “God saw that the wickedness of man was great…every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continuously” (Gen. 6:5, 11, 12). “The heart (of humanity) is deceitful above all things…” (Jer. 17:9, 10). “There is none righteous, no not one…there is none who does good…for all have sinned and therefore, fall short of the ‘glory’ of God” (Romans 3: 10, 12, 23).

        So, “enligntened and well-read” one! What does this sampling of the words of God tell you, in terms of “…what God thinks of us”?

  2. “Muslims are followers of all Prophets up to Prophet Mohammed.” That’s funny!

    According to Muslims, the prophets and the entire Bible is “tainted” and corrupt. How then are they followers of its prophets, when they in fact only believe in their one “uncorrupted” (according to them) prophet, Mohammed?

    “They are brothers and sisters.”

    Oh? On what irrefutable basis? The Bible nowhere claims that we’re all “brothers and sisters”. Why should you? Rather, the Bible protends that there will be various interpretations and applications of the same Book of Writings, of which there would most assuredly be misrepresentations and self-serving applications–more or less–in which case, conflict (and, conflicts of interests) would be inevitable.

    So, biblically, this struggle that you see is to be “expected”. In God’s ‘economy’, gentlement, this is the ‘normal’, given the circumstance. Thus, in reading the Bible, where did you ever get the notion that all the various factions of interpretation/application should have been able to live together in “joyful bliss” or “peace and harmony”?

    • “According to Muslims, the prophets and the entire Bible is “tainted” and corrupt. How then are they followers of its prophets …”

      Muslims highly respect all prophets of the Abrahamic religions. In the Quran “Peace be upon him” is always attributed to them, each time any of their names appears.

      • Well, that’s odd, Mr. .”canadianity” I have had dialogue and diatribe with many Muslims, who stumbled upon my websites over the years, and not one of them showed any significant appreciation for the Bible or its prophets. Much like this gentleman, they were largely “ignorant” of the Book.

    • You are so “right”, Yosef! Two thumbs up to ya! The Bible and Christianity do not present or portray a “religion” (man’s effort to make himself right with God, as he perceives Him) as rather they represent a way of life, guided and controlled by God Himself. The Old Testament Law was indeed a “Legal System” designed and implemented by Almighty God to dramatize and to illustrate the absolute futility of trying to make one’s self right in the eyes of God, given that God Himself would set the demands, to which no human of Adam’s race could ever aspire, faithfully, to His satisfaction.

  3. Jews follow all the propets of the old testament. Moses was one of the first, and hardly consummate of their entirety. Early Christians understood themselves as Jews, as Jesus was the Jewish Messiah. There is no Jesus without Judaism.

    Islam, however, has an entirely different book altogether. It has elements of the OT, and claims the Abrahamic God, but it rewrites the entirety of scripture and identifies violence and deception as principle tools for evangelism. The conflict been Christianity and Islam began when the Muslim incursion invaded, and put Christians to the sword under threat of conversion. While we see this happen in some aspects of history within Christendom (most notably emperor Frederick’s acquisition of control over the inquisition), it is the exception rather than the rule. Islam, however, has violence embedded in the perpetual commands of their Holy book.

  4. Didn’t mean to post that anonymous the first time…

    @ ChildofGod… it is imperative that we at least READ and confirm the things we hear. Abraham (peace be upon him) blessed both his sons Ishmael and Issac(peace be upon them) and was commanded to build the House of God (per scripture of the Torah) God then allowed the fountain head of Prophetic tradition to be streamed line through the children of Jacob (peace be upon him) until Jesus (peace be upon him) was sent to reprimand them for their disobedience and violation of their covenant with God (all praise belong to HIM)…
    Muhammad (peace be upon him) comes from the lineage of Ishmael (peace be upon him) and was born in the city where the only “House of God” was commanded to be built and that command was given to one of the most honored Slaves of God, Abraham (peace be upon him)…

    “The Bible nowhere claims that we’re all “brothers and sisters”. Why should you” Your words.

    I think it’s important we also reread the scriptures that we aim to govern our lives through as wells… we are all brothers and sisters in flesh and faith, but it is only faith that transcends this material existence and place us in the company of one another upon our arrival Home in the Sacred Presence of the Most High GOD… CREATOR and SUSTAINER of all in existence!

    May the peace of GOD anoint you and guide you unto a place of completeness of Faith and Love…

    • I see, Mr. Abdullah, and, just exactly what is it that gives you the exclusive right to make blanket accusations and/or to assume (authoritatively!) that because one having drawn and voiced a viewpoint that runs counter to yours, he therefore has not “read”? Must we be ignorant (solely on your say!), because you disagree?

      Abraham was not given any command to build a House of God. The Torah nowhere makes any such claim, thus, you are lying, on which account you would do well to follow your own advice: “Read and confirm the things we hear”!

      The Place where God chose to put His name and in which the House of God was to be built was (per the Jewish Torah!) Jerusalem. Are you therefore affirming that this (“your”) Mohammed was born in Jerusalem (I should think not!)?

      Again, you my friend are a liar. God never told Abraham to build His House. Rather, God gave Abraham a promise (repeatedly, in fact!): He who had no child until the days of his old age (when he and his wife were well beyond the age of child bearing), would be made a great nation, having many offspring. When a decision was made (arbitrarily, by King David) to build a House of God, to replace the Tabernacle (or Tent), it was again God who countered with His intent to build the House (the one that would mean the most to Him—a.k.a., His church—rooted in the Son, Jesus Christ), and, with it, a name for His servant, King David. So, you see, you do err, my friend, not knowing the scriptures (a.k.a., the Torah!).

      “reread the scriptures that we aim to govern our lives through as wells… we are all brothers and sisters in flesh and faith”

      Attach whatever bits and pieces of philosophical nonsense you like, the fact remains, the Bible nowhere dictates that we are all “brothers and sisters”, in any biblical sense. And, oh let me add, we are certainly not “brothers in faith” with the Muslim! The two (Christianity and Islam) are completely antithetical!

      Further, we know what we are doing when we read the scriptures (that’s a fundamental privilege afforded all Christians, no thanks to you proponents of “mindless” Islam—where your murderous “radicals” make up your minds for you, or, they kill you!). Thus, Mr. Abudullah, it seems that the preponderance of evidence is such that it is you, and you alone between the two of us, who needs to reread the scriptures. Not only do we encourage you to ‘read’, but, read carefully. We do! It is our privilege to see and thereby to know when you don’t.

  5. @ ChildofGod…

    I only engage in this dialogue out of support for a truth that was offered in the initial post, that being that the Creator and Sustainer of All in existence has one faith and every Prophet brought the principle of that Faith which to worship God alone and respect the rights of His creation.

    Everyone will believe what they want to believe at the end of the day and I am not here to convince anyone who already think they know.
    Just for the record.

    “READ…” Why do I suggest that is important for you?

    “According to Muslims, the prophets and the entire Bible is “tainted” and corrupt. How then are they followers of its prophets, when they in fact only believe in their one “uncorrupted” (according to them) prophet, Mohammed?” your words…

    Anyone who as ever actually read the Quran wouldn’t even utter such words, even if they heard a Muslim attempt to profess such untruths they would know that this is the not the teachings of Islam.

    “Indeed, We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], as We revealed to Noah and the prophets after him. And we revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, the Descendants, Jesus, Job,
    Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, and to David We gave the book [of Psalms]. And [We sent] messengers about whom We have related [their stories] to you before and messengers about whom We have not related to you. And Allah spoke to Moses with [direct] speech. [We sent] messengers as bringers of good tidings and warners so that mankind will have no argument against Allah after the messengers. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise.” (An-Nisaa’ 4:163-165)

    “The Messenger has believed in what was revealed to him from his Lord, and [so have] the believers. All of them have believed in Allah and His angels and His books and His messengers, [saying], “We make no distinction between any of His messengers.” And they say, “We hear and we obey. [We seek] Your forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the [final] destination.” (Al Baqarah 2:285)

    Please if you can make time read the book as you are a Child of God…

    As far as a place of worship built by Abraham (peace be upon him) is concerned. it is a matter of perspective and honest assessment of scripture and it’s relationship with mans motives through out history. Nonetheless here is the verse that speaks to an alter that Abraham built, communicated with and saw God… he actually built two, one while traveling through Canaan where a city was established an another with no one there. The second one he prayed and established worship at… all this after being given notice of his descendants future inheritance of the region.

    Genesis Chapter 12
    v1 The *Lord said to Abram, ‘Go from your country, your tribe and your father’s house. Go to the country that I shall show you.
    v2 I will make you into a great nation. I will bless you and I will make your name great. I will *bless other people, too, because of you. v3 I will *bless those that bless you. And I will curse anyone that does not respect you. I will *bless all the families on the earth, because I bless you.’
    v4 Then Abram went, as the *Lord had told him. And Lot went with him. Abram was 75 years old when he left Haran. v5 Abram took with him his wife Sarai and his brother’s son Lot. He also took the slaves. And he took everything that he had got in Haran. They left to go to the country called Canaan. And they arrived at Canaan.
    v6 And Abram went through the country. He went as far as the place called Shechem. He came to the *oak there that was called Moreh. The Canaanites (Canaan’s *descendants) owned the country at that time. v7 Abram saw the *Lord. And the *Lord said to him, ‘I shall give this country to your *descendants.’ Then Abram built an *altar for the *Lord’s honour. Abram built it where he had seen the Lord. v8 From there, Abram moved his camp. He went to the hills that are east from Bethel. He put up his tent between Bethel and Ai. There he built an *altar for the *Lord’s honour. Abram built it where he had seen the Lord. And he prayed to the Lord there. v9 Then Abram went on towards the area called the Negev in the south.”

    If you notice this conversations consist of me (a Muslim) attempting to reconnect (according to God’s will) what corruption of and man alternative motives has disconnected through out the ages. Genealogically (Abraham), linguistically (Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic, Amharic), Geographically (sacred lands between the regions of the Nile rivers and all the way across to the Tigris and Euphrates) and even theologically (Worship of the One Sustainer and Creator of all in Existence) everything about the teachings of Christ, Muhammad, Moses, Abraham and all other Monotheistic tradition’s are connected… and still we sit here and argue separation, division and animosity even though we all agree that these are weapons of the Devil an devoted enemy to humanity…

    I was raised in the church… my family currently has several ministers/deacons, three pastors, an ordained Bishop and a Judea-Christian Rabbi spreading the word of God…

    As far as your buddy Hanna who hopped in… bro if you think that Christiandom (notice I didn’t say followers of Christ) is somehow predominately peaceful… it’s a scary notion to say the least that you think that. Was is not in the name of Christiandom that so many people was slaughtered and persecuted in Europe under the rule of the Pope, was it not in the name of Christiandom that the native americans was brutally slaughter and rob of their lands, slaves taken from African and subjected to a sub-human state in the name of saving their soul and advancement of humanity… should I go on we can look into the 21st century considering that majority of 1st world countries are predominately Christian (in name) but got their foots on the necks of third world societies including the Islamic world…

    I come to this dialogue striving to unite humanity as I understand no matter what religion or Prophet people say they follow, their actions seldomly reflect that… this includes Islam and the non-Islamic actions of many within the Muslim world.

    Ya’ll Brothers be at peace and let unity and understanding be fostered with Young Canadians blog as was the intent in the first place…

    God protect, enhance you and grant you the best in this life and the life to come.

    • Dear Abdul’Hafeedh bin’Abdullah / seventy777 ,

      I too have read the Quran, the English translations (different ones), and the Bible, the English translations, and I have written the original post based on the information from these holy books. I appreciate the highly researched perspective that you bring to this discussion.

      The purpose of this blog post was to try to bring peace.
      Islam, Christianity and Judaism are the 3 largest religions in the world. If the followers of Prophet Abraham read the scriptures and follow a path based on the scriptures, rather than what the politicians preach, then harmony can be restored on Earth. Human beings have become so lazy that they rather have someone preach to them than invest time in understanding the law and arriving at their own interpretations. Many preachers do not even understand the laws themselves.

      We are in the information age. Nothing is hidden from us. There is no excuse for most Westerners to not find the truth.

      I’m surprised to learn how difficult it is to accept each other. Knowledge is within our reach. Most of us pervert it.

      • “If the followers of Prophet Abraham read the scriptures and follow a path based on the scriptures, rather than what the politicians preach, then harmony can be restored on Earth”

        Really?(!!!!) Incredible, astounding (even) how you “read” the Bible and walked away with that conclusion–given that the God of the Bible nowhere in the Bible ever gives mankind credit for that kind of achievement, with, or without His guidance!

      • “The purpose of this blog post was to try to bring peace.
        Islam, Christianity and Judaism are the 3 largest religions in the world. If the followers of Prophet Abraham read the scriptures and follow a path based on the scriptures, rather than what the politicians preach, then harmony can be restored on Earth”

        I salute you Canadian for offering such a valuable and neutral voice amid so much confusion in the world. I support goodness therefore I support your voice. God bless you in this life and the life to come.

    • Mr. Abdullah, I have had dialogue and diatribe with fellow Muslims of yours before, and, as always you are impossible to deal with, totally unteachable–even when you are manifestly ignorant–hopelessly lacking in even the dignity to admit when you are wrong. I’ll not waste my time or yours trying to correct all of the errors endemic to this post. Suffice it to say that it was nice chatting with you, but, now I must be moving on. Have a wonderful day.

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